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By Nick Rothwell

Revealed June 2009

The problem was so as to add but extra options to Stay with out compromising its legendary ease of use. Have Ableton succeeded?

Since its arrival on the audio software program scene in 2001, Ableton Stay has carved out a area of interest as a vastly well-liked music manufacturing and efficiency device. The panorama eight years in the past was dominated by nicely‑established, advanced linear sequencing packages that had been geared in the direction of multitrack studio recording and manufacturing, however the newcomer shortly gained reputation by aiming at a barely totally different a part of the market: stay performers and DJs. Stay has all the time been one thing of a two‑headed beast — a loop‑primarily based efficiency instrument on the one hand, and a linear recording and manufacturing platform on the opposite — and with the arrival of MIDI sequence assist, opening the door to VST Instrument and impact internet hosting, Stay turned a severe contender as a studio manufacturing platform, whereas nonetheless having fun with a place on virtually each performer’s laptop computer on the planet.

Stay’s outstanding success comes all the way down to some easy however nicely‑thought of design decisions. Firstly, it is aware of about looping, and works very laborious at cueing, synchronising and aligning looped materials, and offering a refined modifying interface for loop‑primarily based music. Secondly, it implements a variety of highly effective and versatile options in a clear and dependable method: devices and drums might be ‘racked’ and chained in infinite combos, audio might be routed and blended in methods an precise mixing desk can solely dream of, and the automation assist is obsessively thorough and rock strong. Thirdly, Stay’s interface is evident and easy: one window, two views, and glued panels for devices and pattern searching.

Combining sophistication with ease of use is extremely tough, however Stay manages to take action, with an interface that promotes versatile working with out litter or distraction. However this magnificence of design tends to fly within the face of the software program trade, the place an arms race pushes distributors so as to add increasingly options to their merchandise to win on press launch bullet factors. Regardless of a main model launch as soon as a yr, Stay has already made it to model 7 with out compromising its clear design and strong reliability. Does it nonetheless maintain itself collectively in model 8?

Eight Piece Suite

I reviewed the total Stay 8 bundle, known as Ableton Suite 8. It is a 4‑DVD boxed set consisting of Stay 8 itself, a core library of samples and presets, the total set of Ableton’s software program devices, a assortment of loops and samples from Biking 74 and Zero‑G, a library of Latin Percussion devices and samples, model 2 of the Important Devices Assortment (EIC), and two DVDs devoted to session drums. The pattern libraries are packaged as ‘Stay Packs’ — compressed archives which Stay itself unpacks and installs — so you’ve some alternative as to what you wish to set up.

The total set of Stay Packs occupies 48GB of disk house when unpacked, and set up on my MacBook Professional took a number of hours. All of the devices and pattern units occupy the identical hierarchical navigation tree, and it is not instantly clear which devices are a part of which Stay Packs: for instance, some presets include layers that blend samples with bodily modelled synthesizers. Arguably this does not matter a lot — who cares what devices are used as long as the result’s good? — however it’s probably tough to share tasks with different customers should you aren’t certain what instrument packs they personal and which of them you might be utilizing.

Refined Adjustments

Fortunately, Stay 8 appears to be like and works virtually identically to Stay 7. I am operating each variations right here, and located myself launching the unsuitable one by chance a few instances and taking a minute or two to truly discover. It is tempting to really feel a bit swindled — a main, paid‑for improve and all of it appears to be like the identical? — however the enhancements are non‑trivial, and the shortage of upheaval to at least one’s working course of is definitely a plus level.

The audio file warping and grooving equipment has been given one thing of an overhaul in Stay 8. Stay’s capacity to match up the beats and transients of recorded audio to the playback tempo of a sequence is one in every of its most prestigious options. Stay makes an attempt some points of this itself, however others require steerage, both to appropriate errors or so as to add some creativity into the modifying and synchronisation course of. The warp marker modifying course of is sufficiently totally different between Stay 7 and Stay 8, and sufficiently refined, that it is value a recap of how Stay 7 helps warp modifying, in order that we will see what now occurs in Stay 8.

In Stay 7, when a pattern file is dragged right into a Stay Set as a new clip, this system makes an attempt to find out the pattern’s tempo and its size in bars and beats, in order that it may be looped and performed in sync in any desired tempo. One warp marker is positioned at first of the pattern, and a second marker with the suitable bar and beat quantity is positioned on the finish. If the rhythm of the pattern is common, then the bar and beat divisions between the warp markers will fall on the pattern’s beats. Extra warp markers might be dropped onto bar and beat traces, and markers might be dragged backwards and forwards alongside the waveform; bar and beat traces between adjoining warp markers are scaled linearly.

In Stay 8, issues get a bit extra sophisticated. Stay makes an attempt to determine the transients in a pattern and marks them on the waveform show as potential warp markers. Transient markers might be added, deleted or moved if Stay has not been completely correct in its evaluation. A transient might be was a warp marker by double‑clicking, though warp markers may also be created on bar and beat traces simply as in Stay 7.

Dragging a warp marker in Stay 7 shifts the marker relative to the waveform, and Stay modifications the audio’s playback fee on either side of the marker, in order that the chosen a part of the audio is synchronised to the beat. Holding the Shift key whereas dragging does the identical in Stay 8, though within the new scheme the waveform show strikes whereas the timeline stays linear: identical final result, however reasonably disconcerting behaviour till you get used to it. So what about merely dragging a warp marker? This strikes the marker and its audio sync level to a new quantised bar/beat division, stretching or compressing the audio on either side. That is an modifying operation with no direct equal in Stay 7, and seems to be the equipment Stay makes use of when making use of groove templates, though you might be free to make use of it in your personal artistic ends.

Stay 8’s groove options have additionally been considerably overhauled. Stay 7’s groove capabilities had been reasonably elementary: it was solely potential to pick one in every of three swing resolutions for every clip after which set a international swing quantity for your entire Set. Stay 8 comes with a library of groove templates, which may impose a number of new timing and quantity settings on a clip. For MIDI clips, word occasions are shifted on the timeline and velocities are modified, whereas for audio clips the audio content material is warped and a clip envelope is created to automate the achieve ranges. Making use of a groove to a clip is non‑damaging — a groove is only a timing and quantity template utilized in actual time as a clip performs — so grooves might be auditioned and sizzling‑swapped with out threat of harm to the underlying materials. If you wish to make a groove’s affect everlasting, you possibly can ‘commit’ it to its clip, inflicting the timing and quantity modifications to be utilized as an edit.

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Grooves have parameters which might be modified — lively grooves are saved in a ‘groove pool’ within the Stay Set. It isn’t potential to see the precise timing and quantity parameters, however the time division, quantisation, timing energy, randomness and velocity scaling can all be superb‑tuned (or coarse‑tuned, for radical results).

I’ve to say I am not a nice fan of swing time in my sequenced electronica units, however the brand new groove equipment is sufficiently versatile that it may be utilized in all kinds of how to subtly range or randomise a lot of in any other case rigid materials. Even with the swing timing disabled, it is potential to barely randomise the word timing in MIDI percussion clips, to inject vitality into in any other case lifeless preparations.

Lastly, and most intriguingly, Stay claims to have the ability to extract groove templates from present MIDI and audio clips. It is laborious to inform precisely what this includes, particularly since it is not potential to examine the contents of a groove, and my transient experiments with audio clips had been reasonably inconclusive, however groove extraction from MIDI clips appears to be a predictable option to create customised grooves from scratch or to match present materials.

Monitor Grouping

Three tracks in a group, with a common submix.Three tracks in a group, with a frequent submix.

For a whereas now, Stay has supported composite gadgets constructed by nesting and layering easier ones: an Instrument Rack permits a number of devices (or chains of devices and results) to be performed and managed in parallel, and a Drum Rack maps every instrument in a rack to its personal set off and MIDI key. Each time a mixer channel incorporates a Rack, that channel might be expanded within the mixer view so that every part of the rack has its personal sub‑channel.

In Stay 8, this type of parallel nesting of channels might be carried out straight within the mixer. Two or extra tracks might be grouped collectively below an enclosing group monitor. Every of those sub‑tracks can route its personal output or ship audio into the group monitor itself — this enclosing monitor has its personal mixer controls and may host results, permitting it to behave as a submixer.

The enclosed tracks are first‑class residents: in contrast to rack chains, they’ve their very own particular person clips. Within the Session view, the group monitor exhibits clips as cross‑hatched areas when a number of enclosed tracks have clips in the identical scene; the clips launch as a unit. Within the Association view, the group monitor has a thumbnail view exhibiting clips from the sub‑tracks within the timeline.

Cross Clip Cleverness

One other enchancment within the space of arranging is the addition of programmable crossfades between adjoining audio clips on the identical monitor. Within the Association view, crossfade curves might be dragged and reshaped on the boundaries between clips, and, reasonably cleverly, the waveform is definitely redrawn to replicate the impact of the fade. Even for remoted clips, it is now potential to edit the out and in fade curves with out having to fiddle with quantity automation.Crossfading between two clips within the Association.

The MIDI modifying pane (in each the Session and Association views) has been improved. The pane now has an modifying cursor, so MIDI occasions might be pasted at any desired location, and there may be lastly a step‑file perform: the cursor might be nudged backwards and forwards with the arrow keys, and if the monitor is file‑enabled, any notes held on a keyboard will likely be recorded into the clip on the cursor location because the cursor strikes.

In earlier variations of Stay, a VST or AU plug‑in’s parameters can be made obtainable in a panel within the monitor’s machine chain, in order that particular parameters might be connected to MIDI Controllers or chosen for automation. This labored nicely sufficient for easy plug‑ins, however many tender synths have a whole lot of parameters, occupying a lengthy strip of panel house and making it tough to seek out that very explicit oscillator or filter setting. Stay 8 nonetheless has a panel for parameters, however for advanced plug‑ins the panel begins off empty, and there is a configuration mode wherein Stay is taught which parameters to current there — they’re chosen by pointing and clicking straight within the plug‑in’s interface. These parameters are additionally the one ones offered for automation within the Association view, in addition to for clip envelopes, so a large quantity of irrelevant element — all of the parameters that are set as soon as, purely within the preset — are hidden from view. It is a easy however marvellous piece of streamlining, which focuses consideration on these issues that change, by eradicating from view people who do not.

Instrumental Developments

Stay’s venerable 4‑operator FM synthesizer, Operator, has acquired an improve, though at first view its on‑display screen look is little modified. There are literally barely fewer constructed‑in oscillator waveforms than there have been within the earlier model, however Operator greater than makes up for this by permitting you to attract your individual! A new oscillator pane presents a graph of editable waveform partials, whereas a thumbnail exhibits the ensuing waveform. The constructed‑in waveforms are simply presets within the partial editor. This does not precisely remodel Operator right into a full‑on additive synthesizer, however it critically beefs up its energy with out interfering with its consumer interface. There are additionally extra filter sorts, and the filter response curve can now be considered and edited graphically. New management choices have been added — MIDI Controllers and values might be routed into the voice structure by way of a small modulation matrix — and for added wackiness it is potential to pick totally different FM algorithms at any time by way of automation or MIDI management, even whereas notes are enjoying.

Collision, in the meantime, is new for Stay 8. It is a bodily modelling synthesizer, the place mallet and noise oscillators feed right into a pair of modelled resonators. Collision excels at modelling devices like vibraphones and glockenspiels, producing sounds which can be clear, responsive and natural. There are additionally some surprisingly good analogue synth bass patches, and the plucked guitars have a good sense of life to them. There are even some beautiful piano presets, which I would have sworn had been pattern units earlier than inspecting them extra intently. The price, although, is CPU load, which might be fairly hefty with sure decisions of resonator algorithm.

My private expertise of modelling synthesis, beginning with the Yamaha VL1 a few years in the past, is that the method of sound programming is often fairly opaque except you are the kind of one that wears a white coat and carries a slide rule, however Collision truly presents a honest chunk of its structure in a clear and accessible method: the noise supply has a typical filter and envelope, and the resonators have controls that make sense after a little bit of consideration (and which have descriptive hints in Stay’s Information View pane). I discovered that I was in a position to constructively alter resonator settings with out breaking the preset, wrecking the tuning or or blowing up my audio system. I do not assume Collision will ever be my ‘go to’ instrument for bread‑and‑butter synthesis, however it does current bodily modelling in a demystified method, which I applaud.

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Bundled with Collision is an audio impact named Corpus, which is roughly equal to one in every of Collision’s resonators with its personal devoted LFO. Corpus might be tuned by MIDI word quantity, and affords a number of wealthy results therapies that may be utilized to standard devices and samples with a view to add a little bit of bodily modelled ‘pixie mud’ to a sound.

Looping The Loop

The brand new Collision instrument feeding the Looper impact.

Stay 8 encompasses a actual‑time looper, comparable in intent to the footpedal and rackmount loopers which can be presently in vogue as efficiency gadgets. The Looper ‘instrument’ is definitely an audio impact, because it usually wants an audio feed (which may, after all, be from an audio clip, tender synth or impact), though you possibly can drag present audio clips straight into Looper’s buffer, in addition to exporting loops as new clips. (Looper additionally saves its present buffer with the Stay Set.) Looper is designed to be operated by a MIDI footswitch, so it has a large multi‑mode button that toggles between file, play and overdub mode and offers single‑degree undo and redo of recording passes, individually from Stay’s international undo/redo stack. Looper’s play/file mode may also be automated to permit it to be operated as a part of an association combine, though for some cause the mode cannot be assigned to a rack’s macro controls. The utmost loop size is just not documented, however I dropped a two‑hour clip into Looper’s buffer and it appeared to wish to loop it after about 40 bars.

Looper can reverse its buffered audio and range playback pace by as much as three octaves up or down, however that is concerning the extent of its skills. The playback pace management (which can be used for matching loop tempo to the Stay Set) doesn’t characteristic audio warping, so if the pace varies, so does the pitch.

In comparison with different looping methods, Looper is reasonably fundamental, however that reasonably misses the purpose: since Looper is admittedly simply one in every of Stay’s audio results, there’s nothing to cease you utilizing a number of Looper situations, and all the different equipment Stay offers, to construct arbitrarily massive and complex looping engines to do virtually something you need. Looper is finest considered as a constructing block, reasonably than a full instrument in its personal proper.

Carry On The Vocoder

Maybe not earlier than time, Stay 8 has its personal vocoder impact. I have been a fan of vocoders for the reason that days of the Korg Wavestation, after I would spend far an excessive amount of time modulating pad sounds with rhythmic wave sequences. Due to Stay 8’s Vocoder I can revisit a entire set of strategies I’ve not used for years. Vocoder can run as much as 40 bands in mono or stereo, with parameters for filter financial institution vary and bandwidth, and a formant management to shift the filter frequences as a unit. The filter bands may also be gated. A graphical show permits the achieve of every band to be individually set, and likewise exhibits the audio degree in every band.

As an audio impact, Vocoder takes the modulator sign as enter. The service might be tapped as an audio sign from wherever in Stay’s mixer, or it may be a variable‑density noise generator, or it may be the modulator itself. Vocoder is clearly laid out and straightforward to make use of, operating with a small CPU footprint, and does precisely what it says on the tin.

Stay additionally now sports activities a mixture frequency shifter/ring modulator. One’s creativeness instantly drifts in the direction of unearthly sound results and early modular synthesis, and these sorts of utility are certainly catered for, however there are subtler purposes of such a machine: a slight frequency shift can produce a candy flanging impact, whereas a low‑frequency ring‑modulation induces a light tremolo. There’s additionally a place for extra excessive therapies, corresponding to altering the tone or tuning of particular person drum samples in a drum rack.

Pattern Libraries

The boxed model of Stay 8 comes with a new launch of the Important Instrument Assortment, EIC2 for brief. The gathering incorporates acoustic and electrical keyboards, strings, brass, woodwinds, plucked devices (harp, guitars, basses), mallets, choirs and drums: a good protection of orchestral and band devices. The EIC2 presets are extra than simply collections of multisamples, as they’ve been assembled utilizing Stay’s machine‑chaining equipment and have a number of nested zones and layers, typically with inner audio filters, and all the time with simple‑entry macro controls permitting quick choice or modifying of necessary points of the sound. The EIC2 devices are literally shipped in a number of variations, balancing constancy towards laptop assets, in order that musical concepts might be sketched out utilizing the low‑decision devices and later recorded with all of the keyboard and velocity zones utilizing 24‑bit samples.

Suite 8 additionally ships with two entire DVDs of Session Drums, once more constructed as refined chains of devices and results. The person multi‑miked drums are literally layered Stay devices carrying distinct samples of the sign recorded from stereo overhead and room mics, and these indicators are cleverly routed again into native submixes, permitting for remixing from the unique microphone inputs.

Lastly, there’s a library of Latin percussion kits, masking a vary of exotica from agogo to wooden block. I was fairly taken with the bells and chimes, and the timbale rolls are only a little bit too a lot enjoyable.

With all of Ableton’s drum kits, the mappings from keyboard notes to drum elements is normal, so it is simple to assemble customised kits drawn from totally different presets with out too many clashes throughout the keyboard. All of the drum libraries are packaged with a massive variety of Stay Units containing MIDI clips of drum loops utilizing numerous kits. The clips might be browsed and auditioned inside Stay after which dragged right into a session as beginning factors. I am used to auditioning pattern CDs, so needed to remind myself that these clips are totally editable MIDI sequences driving instrument racks that are themselves editable. The scope for artistic exploration is immense.

Ableton Suite 8 additionally ships with the prevailing set of devices: the Sampler multi‑zone sampler with filter, Analog twin‑oscillator modelled analogue synthesizer, Stress bodily modelling string synthesizer, Electrical modelled electrical piano, and 500MB of sampled drum machines.


Stay 8 is the fourth main revision of Ableton Stay that I’ve used, and, opposite to the standard software program improve apply, the setting nonetheless provides an overriding impression of stability. Every main revision delivers a handful of necessary enhancements to the core bundle, however in any other case the method is one in every of minimal upheaval and low disruption. Evidently Ableton at the moment are trying extra to including worth to the Stay setting, with a succession of latest instrument releases and an ever‑rising choice of pattern units and loops. The total Ableton Suite is such a complete bundle that it is potential to think about total manufacturing tasks utilizing it solely, with none extra devices or results.

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The on‑line sharing characteristic (see ‘Share And Share Alike’ field) has a lot of potential, however the quantity of mileage in that basically is dependent upon the hassle that’s put into the net expertise and the assist given to the Ableton consumer neighborhood that exploits it. Lastly, we have now Max For Stay simply not far away, and I can completely assure that after the Stay and Max methods — and consumer communities — intersect, there will likely be a complete rollercoaster experience forward!

All in all, Ableton have succeeded in producing an improve which provides appreciable worth to the Stay setting and likewise factors to an thrilling future.  

Different Enhancements

In addition to the key modifications described in the primary textual content, Stay 8 ships with a variety of different additions and enhancements:

  • New results embrace a multi‑band dynamics processor (with visible suggestions), a brick‑wall limiter, and an overdrive impact.
  • Stay’s show can now be zoomed between 50 and 200 % of its regular scale: the window measurement is unchanged however all its contents are resized accordingly.
  • MIDI clips and audio information might be scrubbed and previewed within the file browser utilizing a miniature waveform show.
  • Mixer settings might be altered for a number of chosen tracks on the identical time.
  • Tracks and scenes can now be assigned colors, as can chains and macro controls in instrument racks.

Share And Share Alike

A set of shared Stay Units and the start of an add.

Stay 8 marks a push into the world of on‑line musical collaboration and sharing of labor and concepts. On‑line collaboration is not new, after all, and neither is importing and downloading of music and information information, however that is the primary try by a music software program firm to combine on‑line sharing straight right into a manufacturing bundle. A Stay Set might be made public, or shared with chosen customers.

All file sharing takes place by way of Ableton’s servers (in truth, the information are saved in Amazon’s S3 server cloud) reasonably than being peer‑to‑peer, so collaborators must arrange on‑line accounts with Ableton. The discharge notes speak about “clever” file switch — solely modified information are transmitted every time, which is clearly excellent news when working with massive tasks containing a lot of audio materials — however the sharing scheme is known as a variation on conventional importing and downloading, reasonably than one thing sensible sufficient to synchronise tasks between a number of customers (a course of that’s notoriously tough to get proper). Importing is initiated in Stay, which launches a net browser pointing on the Set’s net web page when the add is completed. Downloading is initiated from a net web page containing a particular ‘ableton:’ URL which transfers management to Stay to do the precise downloading. In the mean time the sharing service is free, however Ableton haven’t dominated out charging for it in future.

Every add of a Stay Set ends in a new copy, as does every obtain, so collaborators are liable for protecting monitor of the variations of Units they switch. Downloaded Units are saved in a momentary listing, so you might be additionally liable for saving the challenge someplace everlasting. In apply, I discovered that Stay tried to be reasonably too intelligent about finding audio information from Units that had been by a few add/obtain cycles, so the default motion of accumulating and saving all referenced information into the present challenge appears a clever strategy.

Since there is no such thing as a assure that each one collaborators could have the identical choice of MIDI sound sources and results — {hardware} or software program — Stay affords the choice of freezing any tracks that use inner or exterior devices previous to add. When a set is downloaded, tracks might be unfrozen if the recipient has the suitable software program devices, or else left frozen till the monitor is again within the fingers of its unique creator.

The sharing course of inside Stay is neatly built-in — a devoted file-browser pane exhibits the progress of file transfers — however the net expertise is, on the time of writing, a little primitive. A consumer’s Stay Units are listed so as however there is no such thing as a actual word of the time of the add, which is awkward when the identical Set might be uploaded a number of instances below the identical identify. An uploaded Set can’t be renamed or, for that matter, deleted, and the on‑line expertise is reasonably impoverished in comparison with different audio sharing providers corresponding to Soundcloud. Nevertheless, it is early days but — in accordance with Ableton, the service remains to be in beta — so I would anticipate it to enhance over the approaching months.

One wrinkle I found is that Stay refuses to add audio information in Sound Designer II format, corresponding to these created by MOTU’s AudioDesk — in all probability as a result of such information have a Macintosh‑particular inner useful resource format. Since Stay doesn’t present any means to transform information between totally different codecs, Stay Units containing such information can’t be shared.

It may also be value perusing the small print of the licences of any pattern libraries that you simply’re utilizing, since importing and making obtainable Stay Units containing copyrighted samples in all probability violates quite a few bits of licence settlement.

Most Potential

Probably the most intriguing, and virtually definitely probably the most highly effective, enhancement for Stay 8 is one which, alas, is not transport but, regardless of having its personal chapter within the guide. Max For Stay combines (or will mix) Ableton Stay with Biking 74’s Max/MSP audio and media development package, permitting Max/MSP applications (‘patchers’ in Max parlance) to exist inside a Stay Set. Max/MSP can already export VST plug‑ins to run inside most sequencers by way of a run‑time system known as Pluggo, however Max For Stay is a entire new ball recreation. Not solely will fragments of Max inhabit Stay’s window straight, trying just about indistiguishable from Stay’s constructed‑in devices, however these embedded Max patchers will likely be editable: they are going to be MIDI and audio plug‑ins which might be taken aside, modified and rebuilt straight within the Stay setting. All we all know to this point is that Max For Stay will likely be a further product reasonably than a bundled part of Stay, and that we will anticipate to see it later this yr.


  • Nonetheless sleekly designed, sturdy and superbly ergonomic.
  • Modest however nicely‑engineered enhancements to the core setting.
  • Suite 8 is a bumper pack of versatile devices and excessive‑high quality pattern units, providing a large and complete manufacturing setting.


  • No clear mapping between Stay Packs and the instrument library.
  • The on‑line sharing setting is reasonably primitive and nonetheless in beta‑check.
  • The looping instrument is just not pitch‑corrected.


Ableton Stay 8 is a very spectacular piece of efficiency‑oriented, loop‑primarily based audio/MIDI workstation software program, whereas the total Stay Suite 8 bundle provides 48GB of pattern libraries and a wealthy assortment of modelled synthesis devices.


Stay Suite 8 £599.99; Stay 8 £399.99; upgrades from model 7 £179.99/£159.99 respectively. Costs embrace VAT.

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