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No manner this man pays 3,500 for a 3DSMAX, particularly since I solely intend to make use of on a really restricted foundation. I do not plan to be a for pay content material supplier or something like that. But, I’m fairly nicely persuaded I ought to begin working with it now.

I’m positive to not be the one particular person like me.  If I had been full time animator utilizing it to make my dwelling I would not hesitate to plunk down the inexperienced.

As it’s, I’m extra of a hobbyist making animated movies for non-commercial use.

I used to be questioning if there may be a straightforward manner “financially” to get into 3DSMAX with out an enormous outlay.

No.. I’m not a scholar.

Perhaps there may be one other various software program that may work as nicely. I’d have an interest to look into it.  Somebody talked about Blender, then the caveat…”It is extremely difficult to learn” and I understand how that goes. The open supply group is fairly superior, however when issues get a bit too troublesome the devs can go away you out within the chilly.

Commonplace excuse Open Supply = Nicely you bought the software program free you’ll be able to a minimum of work out the issues.  That works OK with some programming, like HTML.  It does not reduce it when there are keystrokes not simply discerned and the GUI is not as much as par.

Anyway, nuff mentioned.  Any ideas welcome.

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For the report, I hope to get 3dmax as quickly as I can afford it, (if I hadn’t spend a number of thousand on Reallusion stuff in the previous couple of months I may have it already hahahaha, however no regrets in any respect!), however I am not affected person sufficient to attend. I determine so long as I am studying, these expertise will switch over after I get 3dmax to an incredible diploma. If not the precise strategies, the concepts behind how and why issues work, and the fundamental concepts will.

To my data there is no such thing as a center floor between free open supply Blender and costly 3dmax that provides the identical energy. So, I might say go for what you’ll be able to afford now… be taught what you’ll be able to, and when you’ll be able to afford it, if you happen to suppose it’s a necessity, go for 3dmax.

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Nicely, for my 2cents… I’m utilizing Blender and if I can muddle by means of the educational course of anybody can. Since you’re searching for one thing simply on your personal growth, I might go along with that. There are tons of tutorials on it. Is it troublesome to be taught? It positive could be, however max isn’t any stroll within the half both from what I can see. LOL They’re massive, highly effective applications with loads of issues to work with.For the report, I hope to get 3dmax as quickly as I can afford it, (if I hadn’t spend a number of thousand on Reallusion stuff in the previous couple of months I may have it already hahahaha, however no regrets in any respect!), however I am not affected person sufficient to attend. I determine so long as I am studying, these expertise will switch over after I get 3dmax to an incredible diploma. If not the precise strategies, the concepts behind how and why issues work, and the fundamental concepts will.To my data there is no such thing as a center floor between free open supply Blender and costly 3dmax that provides the identical energy. So, I might say go for what you’ll be able to afford now… be taught what you’ll be able to, and when you’ll be able to afford it, if you happen to suppose it’s a necessity, go for 3dmax.

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All of it is determined by what you need to use it for. For character growth, I feel 3DMax with the iClone plugin remains to be the way in which to go, though I imagine the present plugin just isn’t suitable with Max 2013. To make use of different purposes it’s good to go by way of 3DXchange, utilizing FBX, which can be successful or a miss.

To develop props you’ll be able to principally use any modelling program, Blender amongst them. None of those applications are click on and go. You’ll have to make investments time find one you want after which sticking together with your alternative and studying it.

If there’s a group school or one thing like that in your neighborhood, they could give lessons in 3D modelling and you’d be taught a selected program. That is how I realized 3dMax a few years in the past. I may purchase it as a scholar, however I could not afford to stick with it.

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Perhaps you must think about this on a extra modular strategy as there are a plethora of free instruments that do 1 or 2 issues that 3DS max does. Wink

what precisely is it that you just need to do ? the broad strategy of I need every little thing that 3DS Max does however for a lot much less cash is not going to work, I do know this as a result of I’ve spent a really very long time looking for it myself. When you had been extra particular concerning the duties you need to obtain perhaps we might help you discover instruments to do these particular issues.

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any software program that you just anticipate finding that does as a lot as 3DS Max does goes to price you, both in cash – or in tutorials to be taught blender.Perhaps you must think about this on a extra modular strategy as there are a plethora of free instruments that do 1 or 2 issues that 3DS max does.what precisely is it that you just need to do ? the broad strategy of I need every little thing that 3DS Max does however for a lot much less cash is not going to work, I do know this as a result of I’ve spent a really very long time looking for it myself. When you had been extra particular concerning the duties you need to obtain perhaps we might help you discover instruments to do these particular issues.

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I am not fairly positive what all it does, so that’s powerful query for me. Cool

Issues I take into consideration:

1. – develop my very own avatars if vital

I labored on a mission not too long ago and by no means may discover any toddler child avatars. Youngsters yeah, strolling and speaking infants, however no toddler actions, sucking on bottles, diaper modifications or bouncing infants on the bear pores and skin rug.

2. – construct and edit props – I feel this could most likely the largest utilization for many of us.

3. – construct or edit results, particles or components if I want to try this.

4. – perhaps make some particular garments for characters if I’ve to.

5. – Construct some motions and clone bones for them

6. – Create faces and heads with hair for particular makes use of

I not too long ago purchased the RL SCI-FI Assortment and located most of the prop gadgets for the three robotic sorts are simply stuff. They don’t have any connections prospects between the props or something that is sensible. I imply, the video is shifting and issues that do not go collectively…do not.
But, it is extremely exhausting to select the junk actions with the props and such. Sure, I want to modify among the props and the way they work collectively and such.

Perhaps, I am too technical and will simply do the workaround bit as greatest I can. Sure, that’s what I’ve completed thus far, however it’s troublesome to cowl some the workarounds for greatest visible attraction in movies.

Anyway, I’m not altogether proud of among the issues from RL, that are skilled high quality for essentially the most half. But, there are exceptions to this. If I had some capability to work with among the gadgets on the stage they had been created I’d be capable to enhance them for higher utility in my movies.

What do I plan to do with it.I am not fairly positive what all it does, so that’s powerful query for me.Issues I take into consideration:1. – develop my very own avatars if necessaryI labored on a mission not too long ago and by no means may discover any toddler child avatars. Youngsters yeah, strolling and speaking infants, however no toddler actions, sucking on bottles, diaper modifications or bouncing infants on the bear pores and skin rug.2. – construct and edit props – I feel this could most likely the largest utilization for many of us.3. – construct or edit results, particles or components if I want to try this.4. – perhaps make some particular garments for characters if I’ve to.5. – Construct some motions and clone bones for them6. – Create faces and heads with hair for particular usesI not too long ago purchased the RL SCI-FI Assortment and located most of the prop gadgets for the three robotic sorts are simply stuff. They don’t have any connections prospects between the props or something that is sensible. I imply, the video is shifting and issues that do not go collectively…do not.But, it is extremely exhausting to select the junk actions with the props and such. Sure, I want to modify among the props and the way they work collectively and such.Perhaps, I am too technical and will simply do the workaround bit as greatest I can. Sure, that’s what I’ve completed thus far, however it’s troublesome to cowl some the workarounds for greatest visible attraction in movies.Anyway, I’m not altogether proud of among the issues from RL, that are skilled high quality for essentially the most half. But, there are exceptions to this. If I had some capability to work with among the gadgets on the stage they had been created I’d be capable to enhance them for higher utility in my movies.

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Paid / low price – you’d most likely actually get pleasure from 3D Coat, get the coed / non professional person model ..a lot lower than professional model – similar capabilities however extra on authorized limitations and a few options you’d most likely by no means want in any case …. I personally love sculptris myself – so easy and straight ahead – then you definitely even have Messiah which is named probably the greatest instruments for making motions and rigging ..a minimum of in it is worth vary.

If you have not tried 3D coat but, it appears it covers a giant portion of your record so far as modeling is worried. Folks attempt to examine it to Zbrush, clearly Zbrush has the higher hand …however has a steeper studying curve and dearer and plenty of exhausting core modelers would relatively have each than say one is healthier than the opposite.

Additionally I simply discovered myself not too long ago that Mixamo does free rigging for fashions underneath 10k faces – which is gaming dimension, nevertheless it’s a superior rigger that provides you with 3DS Max like outcomes with a very simple to make use of interface …granted no facial rigging , however that could be a moot level in any case when importing to iclone. – Daz is a good software program additionally with their packages – however that “free” software program goes to run you a couple of hundred bucks in any case to get the character builder packages and decimator software program.

For making characters – you should use Make human – Im personally not loopy about that one myself as a result of making clothes to suit a pre-existing character could be a actual PITA – it is doable and has a pipeline to blender ….

and also you even have http://www.wondertouch.com/htmls/special_effects_software/index.htm which has some very nice presets however could be a little dear if you happen to solely need to do 1 or 2 results.

For making faces, I personally like getting inventive …like I will use this free web site http://www.morphthing.com/ and blend and match faces then use in iclone to placed on characters, that may be enjoyable …I made a child with Don King and Marylin Monroe, and one other with Maralyn and a monkey w00t – extraordinarily enjoyable and hilarious with the combos you are able to do!

every little thing I am mentioning thus far is both free or within the lots of, not 1000’s….
I might advocate first testing 3D coat although, it is pretty simple to get fast outcomes with out having to spend a ton of time on tutorials so you will get a really feel for it. – however for extra superior stuff you’ll have to spend a while studying the subtleties in it.

For props – sketchup is difficult to beat ….if you happen to get good at it ..you will get freelance gigs as many individuals ask for sketchup fashions.

additionally , do not let the the truth that it is free and the easy idea of sculptris idiot you…with expert fingers you are able to do some superb issues with it ..take a look at this video …

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there are loads of free toyz to try this … Houdini has the free model thats superior for making particle results – blender is definitely fairly bad-arse for results as nicely ….it sounds such as you would make nice use of blender if you happen to solely targeted on studying one or 2 issues ….Paid / low price – you’d most likely actually get pleasure from 3D Coat, get the coed / non professional person model ..a lot lower than professional model – similar capabilities however extra on authorized limitations and a few options you’d most likely by no means want in any case …. I personally love sculptris myself – so easy and straight ahead – then you definitely even have Messiah which is named probably the greatest instruments for making motions and rigging ..a minimum of in it is worth vary.If you have not tried 3D coat but, it appears it covers a giant portion of your record so far as modeling is worried. Folks attempt to examine it to Zbrush, clearly Zbrush has the higher hand …however has a steeper studying curve and dearer and plenty of exhausting core modelers would relatively have each than say one is healthier than the opposite.Additionally I simply discovered myself not too long ago that Mixamo does free rigging for fashions underneath 10k faces – which is gaming dimension, nevertheless it’s a superior rigger that provides you with 3DS Max like outcomes with a very simple to make use of interface …granted no facial rigging , however that could be a moot level in any case when importing to iclone. – Daz is a good software program additionally with their packages – however that “free” software program goes to run you a couple of hundred bucks in any case to get the character builder packages and decimator software program.For making characters – you should use Make human – Im personally not loopy about that one myself as a result of making clothes to suit a pre-existing character could be a actual PITA – it is doable and has a pipeline to blender ….and also you even have http://www.wondertouch.com/htmls/special_effects_software/index.htm which has some very nice presets however could be a little dear if you happen to solely need to do 1 or 2 results.For making faces, I personally like getting inventive …like I will use this free web site http://www.morphthing.com/ and blend and match faces then use in iclone to placed on characters, that may be enjoyable …I made a child with Don King and Marylin Monroe, and one other with Maralyn and a monkey- extraordinarily enjoyable and hilarious with the combos you are able to do!every little thing I am mentioning thus far is both free or within the lots of, not 1000’s….I might advocate first testing 3D coat although, it is pretty simple to get fast outcomes with out having to spend a ton of time on tutorials so you will get a really feel for it. – however for extra superior stuff you’ll have to spend a while studying the subtleties in it.For props – sketchup is difficult to beat ….if you happen to get good at it ..you will get freelance gigs as many individuals ask for sketchup fashions.additionally , do not let the the truth that it is free and the easy idea of sculptris idiot you…with expert fingers you are able to do some superb issues with it ..take a look at this video …

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Houdini is a formidable software program that has the apprentice model round 100 {dollars}.

is a formidable software program that has the apprentice model round 100 {dollars}.

Not unhealthy could also be Animation grasp, by Hash. It seems to be very simple to be taught an prices 300 {dollars}, however i do not realize it in deep.

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after which there may be Carrara owned by Daz 3D
C8.1 the present manufacturing construct and even the older C6 & 7 variations will export simple to do rigging that may simply be retargetted in 3Dxchange for non facially animatable characters.
An answer for that is to create headless characters and use the Zack clonebone head linked to the top, it’s only a pity one can’t then saved two linked characters within the menu and scenes can’t be merged.
The pinnacle could be exported and in addition reshaped as long as vertex order stays intact.
The 8.5beta permits FBX import of iClone avatars with rigging and animation (manufacturing construct mangles them) however thus far I’ve solely gotten Chuck and Gwynn again into iClone from it with plenty of points, can connect skeleton and weightpaint stuff to them however transforms find yourself locked and altered pivot info leads to wild transforms.
Additionally utilizing connect skeleton on hair will crash 3DX5pipeline, or at very least lose the usual avatar state with facial animation, eyewinkers find yourself moved however changing head can repair this nonetheless crashes are extra possible normally.

for headless characters the free Daz studio may also be used, heads hidden and in iClone, iClone figures with invisible our bodies connected, has a pleasant bridge to Hexagon for reshaping which can also be free, Decimator is your solely most important money outlay.
You possibly can rig stuff in it too, modeling in Hexagon or one other app, utilizing the switch instrument provides Genesis bones to a lined up determine, I’m nonetheless new at that nevertheless it works quite a bit like Carrara I’m acquainted with.

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